Rothbard et Raimondo en procès

[Roniberal]

Voici ce que je viens de recevoir dans ma boîte mail:

I recently took a trip to an undisclosed location in the Great Northwest. While there, I met with a very oldtimer Libertarian Party activist from the 1970s. He is a Pro-Defense Libertarian, and very much "in the know."

I was amazed at the stories he told me about the early days of the LP, and how Justin Raimondo, Rothbard and others moved the Party from a formerly neutral position on Defense issues to a stridently Pacifist/Anti-War organization.

This gentleman told me that it was a well-known fact in the early days of the Movement that certain operatives received major funding from overseas sources.

He speculated that it might even be going on today. I resolved to look into the matter.

Just a few weeks ago, the Detroit News was bought out by an undisclosed foreign owner. Most recently, a paid Agent for the Saudi Government, Frank Richter, has suddenly appeared on their Editorial pages. And we all know about George Soros.

Could it be so far-fetched to believe that certain stridently Anti-War Libertarian activists in the United States are also on the payrolls of foreign governments and foreign operations, like Soros, the Saudis, Hezbollah, or even Al Qaeda?

An effort will soon be announced to look into such links. If you are interested in volunteering to help this effort out, please contact me directly by email. Your information will be completely confidential if you request it.

What we are needing are folks who are willing to scroll through financial records of certain "think tanks," Far-Left Libertarian websites, and organizations. This is all above the board, on-the-level stuff. Nothing shady at all about it. Just basic politics.

Absolutely nothing will be reported to the government. Screw the government. If they want the info, let them do their own GD research. But results will be of course, "noted" on various Pro-America Libertarian Blogs and Websites.

Thanks!

En provenance d'un certain Eric Dondero.

Je suis allé sur le blog du type et …force est de reconnaître que je n'ai guère été déçu:

http://libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com/…ibertarian.html

Giuliani shows his Cultural Libertarian colors: Reaches out to Youth with fundraiser at Dallas Nightclub

Gara Hill, 26, used to be someone political fundraisers avoided. She's not far removed from college and doesn't have a lot of money to throw at political campaigns.

But Friday, Ms. Hill and other urban hipsters will attend a fundraiser for Republican presidential contender Rudy Giuliani at one of Dallas' newest hot spots, The Porch in the Knox-Henderson area.

It's part of an effort by candidates to reach younger voters and fire up their parties' grass roots while still raising tens of millions of dollars from older donors in more traditional events.

"This will be the first one that I would have paid for to attend," said Ms. Hill, a lawyer who has lived in Dallas for a year. "It was something that was within my budget, and I'm still trying to figure out who will be my candidate for 2008. At the same time I get to see The Porch, which I understand is supposed to be so cool." -- Dallas Morning News, 7/27/7

Just a few years ago, it would have been unthinkable for a serious Republican Presidential candidate to not only be seen at a nightclub, but to hold a campaign fundraiser at such a locale. You'd be more likely to find a Republican at a church picnic, or rubber chicken Pachyderm supper.

Now Rudy Giuliani is bringing about a major cultural shift within the GOP. While he's still careful to reach out to mainline church-going Republicans, he's also reaching out to more hipster young voters, and adding them to the GOP mix. Not only is he campaigning in nightclubs, but he's inviting top celebrities to his fundraisers, as well, like comedians Adam Sandler and Dennis Miller.

No other current GOP candidate is doing so. Certainly not the likes of Sam Brownback, Mike Hukabee, or Mitt Romney.

Not even so-called "libertarian" Ron Paul passes the Cultural Libertarian smell test. Paul was recently embarrassed by not knowing that GQ stood for Gentleman's Quarterly Magazine. And a few weeks ago, Paul famously had to ask a campaign staffer who Jon Stewart was.

Philosophical libertarianism is only half the equation. The other half is Cultural libertarianism. And on that score, Rudy Giuliani is cut out of the glitzy, glamorous, fun-loving Arnold Schwarzenegger/David Drier Cultural Libertarian mold.

Yet, one more reason libertarians should rally behind Giuliani for President.

Je me demande de quel droit ce freluquet vient donner des leçons de libéralisme à Ron Paul.

J'aime bien aussi le "church picnic": à l'écouter, on n'est libertarien que quand on se rend dans des boîtes de nuit avec des hippies. C'est comme ça qu'on réussit le "Cultural Libertarian smell test"!

J'attends avec impatience ses preuves contre Rothbard et Raimondo maintenant, je sens qu'on va bien rigoler si c'est du même niveau que ce qu'on lit sur son blog…

[Ronnie Hayek]

Faut qu'ils arrêtent la colle, les "neolibertarians". Je mets ma main à couper que ce gus doit considérer South Park comme un pilier de la culture américaine…

Sinon, dans le genre monomaniaque, le mec vaut le détour:

http://libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com/…n-al-qaeda.html

What's just as, if not more important to the story, are the extensive links that existed between Al Qaeda and Iraq prior to our invasion. It's not like this has become a War Against Al Qaeda in Iraq, all of a sudden. It's essentially been that way all along.

In essence, one could almost say that those who oppose the War in Iraq, are basically defacto, on the same side as Al Qaeda.

[Sous-Commandant Marco]

S'il enquête en toute honnêteté sur les financements d'activités américaines par les Saoudiens et la famille Ben Laden, il risque fort d'avoir des surprises…

Pas besoin d'imaginer des financements, c'est fou le nombre de gens qui écrivent des conneries gratuites…

[Stephdumas]

Faut qu'ils arrêtent la colle, les "neolibertarians". Je mets ma main à couper que ce gus doit considérer South Park comme un pilier de la culture américaine…

parlant de South Park, il y a un terme appellé "South Park Republican" qui lentement mais sûrement fait son bout de chemin, il y a un vieil article de 2005 sur le sujet http://www.lpassociation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15021 incluant même une entrée Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_Republican ainsi qu'un livre titré "South Park conservatives" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_Conservatives

[Ronnie Hayek]

parlant de South Park, il y a un terme appellé "South Park Republican" qui lentement mais sûrement fait son bout de chemin, il y a un vieil article de 2005 sur le sujet http://www.lpassociation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15021 incluant même une entrée Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_Republican ainsi qu'un livre titré "South Park conservatives" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_Conservatives

http://www.lpassociation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15021

If he were alive today, John F. Kennedy could very well be a South Park Republican. He rightly proclaimed, "An economy hampered by restrictive tax rates will never produce enough revenues to balance our budget-just as it will never produce enough jobs or profits." You read that right. JFK was a supply-side tax cutter. His alleged private exploits would place him squarely within the South Park wing of the Republican Party.

Sound farfetched? There have been many Democrats that changed parties. Ronald Reagan, Senator Phil Gramm, and Mayor Mike Bloomberg were all once Democrats that became Republicans. The Democratic Party moved left, and the people that stood in the same place increasingly found their views shared by the elephants of the GOP. But not all elephants belong in the same herd. Pat Buchanan pushes a Christian/protectionist agenda that has absolutely nothing in common with the Libertarian folks who support free trade and complete separation of church and state. Depending on whom you ask, "Conservative" can mean smaller government of lower hemlines. (Hint: South Park Republicans are more likely to get Cosmo than the Weekly Standard.)

Les modals version "républicaine", en somme…

[Jesrad]

Pincez-moi, je rêve.

[Stranger]

Si des étrangers m'offraient de l'argent pour parler de liberté toute la journée, j'accepterais sans hésitation.

[Invité jabial]

Ce qui n'empêche que les auteurs de South Park semblent défendre, eux, une ligne tout à fait libertarienne.

[Roniberal]

Si des étrangers m'offraient de l'argent pour parler de liberté toute la journée, j'accepterais sans hésitation.

En l'espèce, l'auteur sous-entend que Rothbard et Raimondo n'ont prôné une position anti-guerre que suite à cet argent qui leur a été offert…

[melodius]

Bah, la cause est tellement mauvaise que les moyens de la défendre ne peuvent que l'être également.