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Je préfère une dictature progressiste plutôt qu'une démocratie molle qui donne raison aux 51% de tarés islamo-conservateurs qui instaureront de facto une dictature bien pire dans les faits

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Moi aussi. Mais je vois pas le rapport avec un éventuel succès d'un coup d'état militaire de l'armée turque.

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Moi aussi. Mais je vois pas le rapport avec un éventuel succès d'un coup d'état militaire de l'armée turque.

On a aucune idée de la nature idéologique des putschistes, c'est bien ce que je dis.

 

L'ordre légal en Turquie est une vaste blague, c'est une société féodale et mafieuse

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"Si nos amis américains nous livraient celui qui est en Pennsylvanie cela changerait bcp de choses". #Erdogan

Tout ça sans aucune preuve, un coup d'Etat idéal pour faire une petite purge à distance et mettre un coup de pression à Washington

Avec un peu de waterboarding (c'est approuvé par Washington) il va en avoir des preuves :)
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Je me rappelle que vous avez applaudi des deux mains quand un pilote russe avait été abattu par l'armée turque

 

Vous êtes tellement irrationnel avec Poutine que vous préférez le règne de barbus tarés à celui de Moscou

 

 Hein ?

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Et Erdogan toujours à Istanbul...

 

By Grenville Byford

 

The failure of Turkey’s latest attempted coup will be complete when we see President Tayyip Erdogan return to his daily duties in Ankara.

 

Why did he first fly to Istanbul rather than his country’s capital? Because it contains the largest group of his supporters--perhaps 60 per cent of the city’s 14 million people. And they came through for him. It is also the base of Turkey’s powerful First Army. Note that its commanding officer was appointed acting chief of staff when the present incumbent was temporarily captured by the coup supporters. Erdogan clearly thinks this army is loyal.

 

What provoked this attempted insurrection? Turkey is becoming an unhealthily fractured society. Many people are deeply unhappy with the county’s direction; my guess is that the actual spark of the uprising was Erdogan’s suggestion of citizenship for the 2.5 million Syrian refugees crowding into the country. This will have caused resentment in many quarters. Turkish nationalism is ethnically based – hence the ongoing conflict with its Kurdish population. The idea of a large group of Arabs becoming “Turks” would stick in many a nationalist craw.

 

It has been suggested that followers of Fetullah Gulen, the Muslim cleric living in self-imposed exile in the United States, were behind the coup effort. Despite Erdogan’s attacks on him and his followers, I do not think this plausible. Gulen has never had a large base of support in the military and has long opposed military intervention in politics. His supporters were in the police, who appear to have remained loyal to Erdogan.

 

What happens now? In the immediate future, there will be a purge of the army. Trials and recriminations. Erdogan is secure. The governing Justice and Development Party (AKP) will rally round its leader and all of the opposition parties – including the Kurds – have strongly repudiated the coup attempt.

 

In the longer term? Many people – including Citizen Osman, the Turkish man in the street – will be asking themselves to what extent Erdogan is to blame. More specifically, the Turkish generals will be asking themselves whether this is a small group of malcontents or the tip of a much larger iceberg. If the latter, and it may well be, historical precedent says they will seek to secure the unity of the army by taking on board some of their subordinates’ positions. AKP (like politicians everywhere) will be questioning the origins of their grip on power.

 

Hitherto, Erdogan’s personality and political skill have been their trump card. Now? Remember there are still some sidelined big beasts in the AK Parti jungle, such as former President Abdullah Gul. They cannot be happy today and they are not going away. Finally, there are the business backers of the party. What is going to happen to the economy? They too will be questioning whether Erdogan remains the asset he was--especially given some bizarre statements he has made about monetary policy. The opposition of course, will see this as an opportunity. Which they will probably botch.

 

Elections are not imminent. The next presidential, general, and local votes are not due until 2019, so Erdogan is safe as president until then. I suspect, however, that his plans to change the constitution to provide for an all powerful president (with him in that role) are now dead. This coup attempt raises too many questions about his leadership. It will also weaken his hold on AK Parti and therefore the de facto, though unconstitutional, “Strong President” role he has assumed.

 

Erdogan is not a passive player in all this. He is a superb orator and has a large, solid base of support outside of Istanbul too. What he seems to have lost of late are his exceptional political instincts. The shock of the weekend’s events may drive him into a defensive and damaging crouch. Alternatively, it may break up the echo chamber he has been living in and remind him of the widely admired reformer he once was. Whatever happens next, the ball is very much in his court.

 

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14 navires d'après l'article. (ce qui ne fait pas non plus la moitié de la flotte).

J'aurais bien aimé avoir plus de précisions sur les navires en question (tonnages, etc). Il y a une différence entre une vedette de patrouille et une frégate.

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Le soutien des policiers au régime a été bien mal récompensé...
 

Coup d'État manqué en Turquie : la purge prend des proportions dantesques

 

Quelque 9 000 fonctionnaires de l’Intérieur, 6 000 militaires, 3 000 juges, 1 500 fonctionnaires du ministère des Finances… Au total, ce sont près de 20 000 personnes qui ont été soit arrêtées, soit limogées depuis la tentative ratée de coup d’Etat militaire vendredi...

 

[...] des universitaires et des journalistes critiques du pouvoir sont notamment évoqués comme les prochaines cibles de cette vague de nettoyage

 

[...] Le pouvoir turc a également annoncé l’interdiction de sortie du territoire turc pour tous les fonctionnaires du pays, soit au moins trois millions de personnes

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14 navires d'après l'article. (ce qui ne fait pas non plus la moitié de la flotte).

J'aurais bien aimé avoir plus de précisions sur les navires en question (tonnages, etc). Il y a une différence entre une vedette de patrouille et une frégate.

Visiblement il y a un amiral dans le lot, je suppose qu'il n'est pas en dériveur ^^
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C'est du turc. Tu nous traduit?

Grossi modo, les fans d'Erdogan sont allé "manifeste" contre le coup d'état.

Erdogan vient de demander la démission de tous les recteurs d'université.

C'est hallucinant et horrible. Je m'inquiète pour ma famille. :(

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Le ministère de l’éducation turc a annoncé mardi 18 juillet la suspension de plus de 15 000 de ses employés soupçonnés d’être liés au prédicateur Fethullah Gülen

 

Le Conseil de l’enseignement supérieur (YÖK) – l’organisme étatique qui supervise l’organisation des universités – a pour sa part demandé la démission de plus de 1 500 recteurs et doyens d’université

 

http://www.lemonde.fr/proche-orient/article/2016/07/19/turquie-la-purge-du-president-erdogan-s-etend-desormais-a-l-enseignement_4971892_3218.html

 

Tout va bien...

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A la commissionn européenne aussi ils sont très inquiets de ce quie se passe en Turquie . Et jusqu'à présent il me semble que personne ne comprend pour Erdogan est allé chercher des poux aux américains .. (voir l'enquete sur une très importante base navale américaine)

 

https://www.neweurope.eu/article/eu-commissioner-hahn-on-turkey-coup-attempt-lists-were-ready/

 

 

EU Commissioner Hahn on Turkey coup attempt: “Lists were ready”

 

“The lists are available already after the event, this indicates that this was prepared to be used at a certain stage” stressed Johannes Hahn, EU Commissioner in charge of European Neighbourhood Policy and Enlargement Negotiations, while doorstepping to the EU Council, before the ministers of Foreign Affairs took their breakfast in Justus Lipsius building.

 

2,745 judges, equal number of prosecutors and 3,000 suspected military plotters, ranging from top commanders to foot soldiers prosecutors were sacked and arrested, immediately after the failed Turkey coup attempt. EU Commission’s Hahn suggests that in order to do so, the Turkish government had all those lists ready.

 

Hahn was also asked on how concerned he is on the arrests of judges in Turkey, after the failed coup d’etat attempt. “We already stated that we expect that the follow up of this event should be along the International rule of law standards. What we see is that this is not yet met,” the Commissioner added.

 

http://www.consilium.europa.eu/press-releases-pdf/2016/7/47244644440_en.pdf

 

PRESS RELEASE 463/16   18/07/2016 -  Council conclusions on Turkey

The EU strongly condemns the attempted coup in Turkey and reiterates its full support to the legitimate institutions of the country. It deplores the high number of casualties and stands in solidarity with the Turkish people.

 

The EU welcomes the common position of the political parties in support of Turkey's democracy. The EU calls for restraint to be shown by Turkish authorities, including by the police and security forces. All must be done to avoid further violence, to protect lives and to restore calm.

 

The EU calls for the full observance of Turkey's constitutional order and stresses the importance of the rule of law prevailing. It is crucial to ensure full respect for all democratic institutions of the country including the elected government and the Turkish Grand National Assembly. The EU underlines the need to respect democracy, human rights and fundamental freedoms and the right of everyone to a fair trial in full compliance with the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms, including Protocol 13 on the abolition of the death penalty. In this context, the EU recalls that the unequivocal rejection of the death penalty is an essential element of the Union acquis.

 

Turkey is a candidate country and a key partner for the European Union. The EU remains committed to working together with a democratic, inclusive and stable Turkey to address our common challenges.

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-16/turkey-accuses-us-being-behind-military-coup-demands-extradition-cleric-gulen

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-16/turkey-suspends-all-us-operations-against-isis-incirlik-airbase-which-vaults-us-b61-

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-18/turkish-prosecutors-raid-incirlik-airbase-housing-us-warplanes-and-50-nuclear-bombs

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